karen finney, ari melber. you’ll remember in
2010
, really in the hey day of the
tea party
which people were screaming and atta attacking the
health care
bill. do you think they’ll be a similar type of protest given the fact of what the
supreme court
has found and also the presidential nominee,
mitt romney
, actually implemented a mandate himself?

yeah, i think the contrast to recent history, you have a
standard bearer
for the
republican party
that was fine for this program and also talked about it as a national model al and then two, which is really significant here. the constitutionalization of our political differences. we had an open debate about whether this was constitutional. we have a court now that has said this is affirmatively constitutional. they have answered that question and we as citizens and the government will abide by that. i think that undercuts part of what the
tea party
has done. i love they want to talk about
american history
, but when you start to treat the constitution as a ? symbol of what you wish it were and not what the court says it is.

karen, i want to play a new
health care
ad by
karl rove
‘s
cross roads
super pac. take a listen.

i would never vote to take away a senior’s
health care
or himt anyone’s care.

but heidi endorsed obamacare.

that ad basically implies she’s lying. but i want to play for you the original ads that they’re quoting.

12 years ago, i beat
breast cancer
. when you live through that, political attack ads seem silly. i would never vote to take away a senior’s
health care
.

so, congratulations to
karl rove
.

it’s really classy isn’t it? having lived through this in the clinton years, this is the kind of very nasty distortion that we are going to see over the next several weeks. but here’s the thing. remember that political speaking,
mitt romney
has to win independents. this is about the independents. and they have to be worried that a little bit too much of the extremes, remember what we saw from the tea partiers and this kind of extreme ad. again, a a woman who overcame
breast cancer
. that’s not going to appeal to independent voters. if you’re someone for whom those attacks ? work, you’re probably not voting for
president obama
. you probably already support
mitt romney
. so remember that in the context of this election,
mitt romney
has a very
fine line
to watch in terms of keeping that far right wing
tea party
base with him and still appealing to the mor moderate independents in this country.

but ari, to your point, is
karl rove
respecting the constitution by running ads like that? setting aside the most distasteful nature of the con. tent.

well, i don’t think he’s breaking any rules. the fact that so much of this stuff gets so dirty and sometimes in his case, we can trace it back. in many cases, we can’t find out who the donors are. the other point that i think is important is all of this is sort of, all of the arguments about the law are sort of bookended here by this really redick louse ridiculous vote we had in the house about holding the attorney general in contempt. something that has never been done before and was timed in a really odd, suspicious way.

people would say deliberate.

well, i’m being as fair as possible. the only point i want to finish with is that this is the problem as we go into a
general election
. we have a lot of high minded talk from elements of the the right wing about
law and justice
and the rules. well, the rules are here. the constitution is here. you have to respect what the
supreme court
did and look at the precedent, that it does not respect normal boundaries.

and remembe)? that
karl rove
is is the person who has tried to win elections by scapegoating
gay and lesbian
people, immigrants in this country. he is the guy who is all about fear mongering, so of course he is going to attack a
breast cancer
survivor if he thinks it’s going to get a few votes. this is where the tactics are going to meet up with the reality of the law.

thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. coming

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